More than 90 days in 180 for Host Country (Italy)
I originally was going to post a follow up question on this question / answer but wasn't sure if that was bad etiquette. What does the spouse of an Italian citizen need in order to stay in the Schengen area for more than 90 days? Our situation is very similar.
I am hoping to travel this May to Europe with my EU spouse (Italian / British Citizen) returning in October. I am a British Citizen. Subject to Covid restrictions being lifted we would like to travel by car from the UK to Europe in May this year. We would proceed directly to Italy, passing through France, and Switzerland. We would like to spend up to 90 days in Italy, leave for a another EU country (likely Spain), then return to Italy, for up to 90 days before returning to the UK. My questions are
- Provided we do not exceed 90 days in any single EU country can i travel visa free in Schengen area for circa 7 months, or do i need to apply for a visa?
- Does this still apply in Italy given that my spouse is an Italian citizen? And
- How long would we need to spend outside of Italy before we are able to return?
If there is any feedback from the original poster on how their travel worked in practice that would be great to hear about. Was she able to travel in this way? Did she encounter any problems?
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- Provided we do not exceed 90 days in any single EU country can I travel visa free in Schengen area for circa 7 months, or do I need to apply for a visa?
As you note in a comment, directive 2004/38/EC provides that EU citizens can stay for 3 months (and not 90 days) in another EU country without any requirement. You can indeed hop between countries. In practice, securing a residence permit as family member of an EU citizen in one of these countries can however makes things easier (no questions asked at border checks).
- Does this still apply in Italy given that my spouse is an Italian citizen? And
No, it doesn't, usually, but there are some caveats. EU citizens who made use of their right to free movement in another country (which might be your spouse's case before Brexit?) are covered even in their country of citizenship (that's the Surinder Singh route) and I believe Italy extends similar rights to its nationals anyway (maybe someone else can provide more details about that).
- How long would we need to spend outside of Italy before we are able to return?
There is no predefined cooling-off period, the rule is really 3 months, not 3-months-in-a-6-month-period (old Schengen visitor rule) or 90-days-in-any-180-day-period (current Schengen visitor rule). On the other hand, if you leave for a day every three months, you could presumably be treated as a resident so what counts as enough time spent out of Italy is a bit of a gray area.
It's mostly unrelated to EU law and immigration/visa issues but if you end up spending about six months in Italy in 2021 (give or take, even without going over the 180-day threshold), you may very well be deemed a resident, e.g. for tax purposes. Other facts can also play a role (do you keep a home in the UK, etc.)
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What happens if you stay in Italy over 90 days?
If you completed 90 days in the Schengen space You must exit and after 90 days you can enter again for MAX another 90 days. If you plan to stay longer than 90 days you will need to apply for a National Visa specifying the reason for such a prolonged stay. A visa may or may not be granted.Can I visit Italy for more than 90 days?
With an Italian long-stay visa, you can enter Italy. After that, you have to get your Italian residence permit, which is what authorizes you to stay in Italy for longer than 90 days. You cannot apply for an Italian residence permit if you are in Italy with a short-stay visa (Schengen).What is the 90 day rule for Italy?
They must travel to Italy and then apply as your family member within 90 days of arriving. Nationals of certain non- EU countries may need a visa before travel. The Italian authorities should issue family reunion visas free of charge.How can I stay in Italy longer than 3 months?
Any US citizen interested in living in Italy longer than 3 months will need a long-term visa. The different types of long-term visas (Visa D) travelers most commonly use include: Student visas, Work visas, Self-employed work visas, or Elective Resident visas.STAY IN EUROPE FOR MORE THAN 90 DAYS… JUST DO THIS! Schengen area and the 90 day rule for Van Life.
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