Being in Spain as an international student, with an expired TIE, will I be able to travel to Italy and back with just a return permit?

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I am currently a Dominican student staying in Madrid, last August my visa/TIE expired, since then I've been doing all the paperwork and all I need to do to renew it, sadly it won't be done until some time in the first few months of 2020.

This December all of my family is coming to Europe for the Holidays, they're planning to stay in Madrid for a couple of days and then we plan on going to Italy for the rest of the Holidays. Knowing this I just got a permit so I can leave Spain and come back, but on said permit it says "not valid to transit Schengen States", I'm a little confused over this, what does it mean? do I need to get a different permit? Is this one enough?



Best Answer

An interesting constilation.

As a citizen of the Dominican Republic (listed in Annex I), you will require a C-Visa (Schengen Visa) issued by Italy.

Normaly as a holder of a valid residence permit of Spain, this would not be required.

I just got a permit so I can leave Spain and come back, but on said permit it says "not valid to transit Schengen States"

The only images I could find that contain the word 'Schengen' use

  • circular and not tránsito

so it may mean not valid for travel. Most of the images found don't contain this text.

The (very small) english text of the image below says:

  • No longer valid for roaming the Schengen territory

You will have to probaly go to the Italian Consulate, with all of your Spanish papers, and apply for a C-Visa. Let them then deside what to do.

As to how this issued Visa will recieve an entry/exit stamp when travelling between Spain and Italy is a good question, since this is a rather abnormal situation.

If you do not recieve an entry stamp in Italy, then make sure you have this Spanish document and the flight tickets (which proves when you entered Italy) inside your passport while in Italy.





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Can I leave Spain without tie?

Simply put, the Autorizaci\xf3n de Regreso (Permission to Return) or \u201cRegreso\u201d, is a white paper that gives the holder permission to leave and ultimately return to Spain without a valid Visa or valid TIE (residence card).

How long can you stay in Spain after tie expires?

However the law also allows that you begin the TIE renewal during the 90 days after the expiry date of your card. If you do it during this period, the Spanish authorities could apply you an economic penalty (fine) that could reach the 500\u20ac.

Can you travel with expired NIE?

The short answer is that you can leave Spain while your NIE renewal is being processed, but you need a permit to return, which in Spanish is called the Autorizacion de Regreso.

Can I travel with my tie card?

Applicants under this category are not under any legal obligation to apply for the new plastic card. However, the Spanish government invites those who would wish to get the card to apply. With the TIE card, you don't have to carry your passport around since it can also be used as an ID.



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