90/180 in for Guadeloupe
If what I've read is correct, Guadeloupe is part of France and EU but not part of Schengen. However, they also have a 90/180 rule for US citizens. So it seems (can't imagine anyone wanting to) you could go back and forth between Schengen and Guadeloupe indefinitely (with a transition day somewhere else to avoid counting the travel day in both).
Am I misinterpreting something?
Best Answer
Not sure about the general case (Guadeloupe / Schengen Area), but for the specific case of mixing stays in Guadeloupe with stays in metropolitan France:
Note that the rule for Guadeloupe is not 90/180 but 3 months out of 6, starting at any entry into any of the territories concerned. Close, but not exactly the same in some edge cases.
The 3 months out of 6 rule includes metropolitan France, so you would not be able to go back and forth between Guadeloupe and metropolitan France. And since many of the flights to/from Guadeloupe go through France, even if during the "alternating months" you do not stay in metropolitan France, you would need to be careful with your transit days in France. Of course, the lack of stamps while travelling between France and the rest of the Schengen area may complicate things a fair amount.
This includes many of the other French overseas territories in the area and elsewhere (but not all). So likewise, it's not possible to spend 3 months in Guadeloupe, 3 months in Saint Martin…
References:
Article 3
(...) sont dispensés du visa prévu à ce même article les étrangers mentionnés à l'annexe II du présent arrêté, dans les limites qu'elle fixe.
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Annexe II
Modifié par Arrêté du 28 décembre 2020 - art. 1
- Liste des pays ou des entités administratives dont les titulaires de passeport sont dispensés de visa pour entrer sur le territoire de la Guadeloupe, la Guyane, la Martinique, La Réunion et de la collectivité de Saint-Pierre-et-Miquelon afin d'y effectuer des séjours dont la durée n'excède pas trois mois par période de six mois sur l'ensemble du territoire défini au premier alinéa de l'article L. 111-2 du code de l'entrée et du séjour des étrangers et du droit d'asile, sauf accord de circulation plus favorable, et limites à cette dispense
(emphasis mine)
- First paragraph of Article L111-2 of Code de l'entrée et du séjour des étrangers et du droit d'asile
(...) le présent code régit l'entrée et le séjour des étrangers en France métropolitaine, en Guadeloupe, en Guyane, en Martinique, à Mayotte, à La Réunion, à Saint-Pierre-et-Miquelon, à Saint-Barthélemy et à Saint-Martin.
(emphasis mine)
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How does the 90 in 180-day rule work?
What is the Schengen 90/180 rule? Under the terms of Schengen, non-EEA nationals cannot spend more than a total of 90 days within a total period of 180 days without a visa. Furthermore, once you've used up your quota of 90 days, you cannot return to Schengen until 90 more days have passed.What countries will the 90 days in 180 apply?
What exactly does the rule relate to? The 90/180-day rule relates to entry and exit from the entire Schengen area. This refers to the whole of the EU apart from Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Romania and Ireland. Also included are Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland.How does the 90-day Schengen rule work?
You can stay 90 days in any 180-day period within the Schengen area. calculated individually for each of these states. For instance, after a 90-day stay in the Schengen area, the person can immediately travel to Croatia and stay for another 90 days there. The 180-day reference period is not fixed.Does the 90-day rule apply to all EU countries?
The 90/180-day rule applies to the whole Schengen area so that includes all EU countries apart from Bulgaria, Croatia, Romania, Cyprus and Ireland.John Frusciante - 90/180
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