Traveling in the Schengen area without Italian permit to stay

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I am a U.S. student studying abroad in Italy. I have my Italian visa. I recently had my fingerprinting appointment to acquire my permit to stay. I was told that I cannot travel within the Schengen area without my permit to stay after I have been in Italy for longer than 90 days.

I have a couple of questions regarding this.

  1. Is this correct?
  2. What will happen if I travel within the Schengen area and am checked without my permit to stay?

The only times my passport has been checked in Europe in general is to make sure my name matches my name on my boarding pass. The only travel plans I have that will conflict with this is Switzerland. Any help is appreciated.



Best Answer

  1. Is this correct?

Probably. Your presence in Italy is permitted because of the pending application for the permit. But you have no basis to be in other Schengen countries after you have exhausted the 90-day visa-free limit for short visits.

However, if you have a type-D visa issued by Italy, then any days you spend in Italy during the validity of that visa do not count towards the 90-day limit. If you haven't exhausted the 90-day limit, then the only thing preventing you from going to other Schengen countries would be Italian national law.

I do not know what Italian national law says about that, but countries sometimes consider that if you leave the country you have abandoned your residence permit application. That question is rather more on topic for Expatriates than here.

  1. What will happen if I travel within the Schengen area and am checked without my permit to stay?

It depends on the national law in the country where you are checked, as well as on the personal discretion of the officer who checks you. Worst case, you could be deported. This is probably extremely unlikely. Other possibilities include being

  • fined
  • sent to Italy
  • told to go to Italy
  • warned
  • allowed to go on your way

Some will point out that in some countries, officers do not have personal discretion over these matters, and while that may be true as a matter of law, there is never anything that stops an officer from letting you go.

My experience with Swiss authorities, however, is that they are relatively stricter about adhering to the law than those in other countries, but even still, you might be lucky. (For example, I once left the Schengen area from a Swiss airport, and my traveling companion had not received an entry stamp when we had come in through the land border. The officer said that he should fine her, but he did not.)

So you will probably be fine, but I wouldn't risk it unless there were some compelling reason to do so.




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Can you travel within Schengen without visa?

How long can I stay without a visa in the Schengen area? You can stay 90 days in any 180-day period within the Schengen area. calculated individually for each of these states. For instance, after a 90-day stay in the Schengen area, the person can immediately travel to Croatia and stay for another 90 days there.

Can I go outside of Italy with receipts of Permesso Soggiorno?

Once you are granted the standard Permesso, you can travel freely in and out of Italy and the Schengen area provided you always bring along the original Permesso together with your passport. If a standard Permesso is not granted, you can stay in Italy with the receipt and leave the country, but cannot re-enter Italy.

Can I stay in the Schengen area more than 90 days?

The Schengen law states that you can't stay in the Area for more than 90 days. If you do, you're subject to a fine and possibly deportation and being banned from re-entering the Schengen Area.

How long can I stay outside Italy with residence permit?

In general the non-EU citizen can stay outside of Italy for a continuous period provided that it does not exceed half the duration of his/her residence permit. Only persons with a residence permit for at least 2 years can leave for a period that is more than 6 months.



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