Student resident permit in Finland stay duration in Germany for travel

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I am from Vietnam and a full time student in Finland.

I have finished my internship in Germany in January 31st 2015, and my working visa for internship ended on that day (saying also I have 7 more days until I have to leave Germany).

However, I obtain a student residence permit in Finland until August 2015, therefore I decided to stay and travel within Germany from 1st of February until April 20, 2015 (I have the right to stay in Germany for 90 days maximum).

Could you please explain to me clearly about the 90/180 days rule that I have to apply in my case? And after April 20, 2015 I will travel outside EU until May 11, 2015. Then I will come back to Germany for a while before I fly back to Finland for my study.

I would like to ask, how many days left I have to stay in Germany after May 11, 2015. Does 90 days authorized start counting all over again or it keeps counting within the period?

Could you give me some advice in my case at the moment so that I can book the ticket to Finland from Germany after May 10 , 2015?



Best Answer

This depends on what kind of visa/permit you had in Germany until January 31.

Assuming that it was either a German residence permit or a German type D visa, then the time you spent in Germany under it does not count for the Schengen clock.

Similarly, I understand that you already have a valid residence permit for Finland. Then the Schengen clock stops ticking again once you have arrived in Finland. In the mean time the Finnish residence permit gives you rights to travel in Schengen-outside-Finland closely similar to a multiple-entry short-stay visa.

Assuming that you haven't been in any Schengen country other than Germany or Finland in the 180 days leading up to January 31, you can be present in Schengen-outside-Finland for 90 days in total in the period between February 1 and May 11 (since this period in less than 180 days).

Februrary 1 to April 20 is 79 days, so after you leave on April 20 you will have 11 days left.

If you re-enter Schengen on May 11, those 11 days will start being used, and you need to be either outside Schengen or in Finland (where the Schengen clock doesn't reach thanks to your residence permit) by the end of May 21.

The 90-day period does not restart just because you leave the Schengen area. The rule is that you get 90 days in any 180-day period. You're in violation on a given day whenever more than 90 of [that day plus the 179 preceding days] are days where you have set foot in a Schengen country (except for the issuer of a valid residence permit or type D visa).




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How long can I stay outside Finland with residence permit?

If you have been granted a residence permit in Finland, or a residence card for a family member of an EU citizen in Finland, you may travel in the Schengen area without a visa for up to 90 days out of any 180-day period.

How long can I stay out of Germany with a student visa?

A person who carries a permanent residence permit can stay abroad for a maximum of 6 months. It is necessary for this person to fly back before the expiration of the 6-month duration. A holder of Blue Card can stay outside Germany for a maximum of one year.

How long can you stay in Germany with a residence permit?

A tourist visa allows you to stay in Germany for about 90 days and explore the country and all it has to offer. Staying beyond the permitted 90 days is not possible though without a residence permit. A German residence permit allows you to stay in Germany for a more extended period than only 90 days.

Can I staying outside Germany for more than 6 months?

Overstaying the six-month limit period with regard to stays abroad. As a rule, a residence title expires if its holder remains abroad for more than six months without interruption (section 51 subsection (1) No. 7 of the Residence Act).



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