I am applying for a Tier 5 Youth Mobility visa, but have been refused a visa/overstayed in the Czech Republic/Schengen zone [duplicate]
I am applying for the tier 5 Youth Mobility Visa from Canada. I traveled to the Czech Republic in 2012 and was denied a freelance working visa shortly thereafter in 2013. I appealed the decision, only to be refused again. I therefore ended up overstaying my 90 day tourist visa in the course of this. I had no troubles upon leaving the country in December 2013.
The Tier 5 application asks if you have been refused a visa in any other country. It is very obvious on my passport that I was denied-as the visa appointment is stamped in it. Would it be wise to "lose my passport" or just be honest and hope for the best? Will the fact I was denied and overstayed be detrimental to my tier 5 application?
I also traveled throughout the Schengen zone whilst waiting for the appeal to come through-I was under the impression I was still legal whilst waiting for the appeal answer (I'm still unsure if that is true or not). The tier 5 application also requires you to list all the countries you have traveled to in the past 10 years. Since I traveled to many countries (perhaps illegally) will that be further detrimental to my application? I also don't have stamps in my passport for the above travels since I traveled by ground and did not receive stamps. I know that the UK and the Schengen zone do not share information, so how necessary is it to list these travels?
Best Answer
The strategy of concealing an adverse immigration event by 'losing' one's passport and getting a fresh, unblemished passport is a poor one. There is a history associated with the passport that is not accounted for in its physical pages, but rather in computer systems linked to the passport number. And a new passport will contain a record linking it back to the previous one. People still try this strategy, however, and when they get caught the results are catastrophic.
If the UK catches somebody doing this, they will get logged (along with their biometrics) as violating Paragraph 320 of the Immigration Rules. That usually means the person can forget about coming here for a long time, if ever. Plus they will tell the US Department of Homeland Security about it (regardless of your nationality). They keep your biometrics on file for 12 years if you have a clean history, and indefinitely if you fall under Paragraph 320.
For your other question, if the refusal of a work permit in the EU has plays a role in the UK's decision process, the answer is yes, but refusal is not a foregone conclusion and a prior refusal is not a show-stopper. They will need to examine the circumstances of your refusal vis-a-vis changes in your circumstances that they consider remedial. If they conclude that your circumstances have changed, your refusal in the EU will be irrelevant.
Finally, if they find out you overstayed a visa in the EU, they will be upset and entitled to conclude that you do not honour the terms and conditions of visas. Alternatively if you conceal it, matters can become infinitely worse (Paragraph 320 again). Also, if the form asks you straight out for a list of countries you have visited, you should list them.
Overall, if the form asks a question, you should consider it relevant and important and provide as much candour as you can. Paragraph 320 is here https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/370958/20141106_immigration_rules_part_9_final.pdf
If you are worried that your T5 application may be imperilled, you can instruct a UK based specialist to help out. http://www.ilpa.org.uk/pages/find-immigration-advice.html
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Do embassies know about visa refusal in other countries?
As long as there is no visa rejection stamp on your passport none will know that another country has denied your visa. Except for Schengen countries as they use the same system and they will be able to pull you information. In the Western world all of the embassies are linked into common computer networks and systems.Can you get a Tier 5 youth mobility visa twice?
You can only get the Youth Mobility Visa ONCE in your lifetime. That's right. One time only. Once you have applied for and travelled to the UK on the Tier 5 Youth Mobility Visa, you can never apply for it again.What happens if you overstay Schengen?
You could receive a fine, immediate deportation or even get banned from entering the Schengen Area for a period. It is also important to remember that the 90/180 day rule also applies to countries with a visa waiver agreement with the Schengen Area.Can I apply for Schengen visa after rejection?
A common question newly rejected individuals and couples ask is \u201cCan we apply for a Schengen visa again after rejection?\u201d The answer to this question is always yes. Therefore, instead of appealing your rejected Schengen visa (or if your appeal fails), you could simply apply for a new Schengen visa.How to get a five-year Schengen tourist visa| multiple-entry Europe visa| Nigerian passport|
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Answer 2
Never lie on applications.
The stamp in your passport is NOT the only record that you've had your previos attempt rejected, I assure you.
However, having a rejection does not necessarily mean you'll get rejected again. Overstaying visas certainly doesn't help, but I have a friend who overstayed his visa, was caught, and has since been back on a tourist visa - it just required more effort and details in the application.
Countries also share information. A relative had her returning residence visa expire for a country, and upon boarding a flight to there, the departure country could tell this on their system, and she had to spend a day frantically running around sorting out an emergency visa for this.
GIven your situation, and that you've been declined AND have a previous overstaying record, I'd highly recommend speaking to an immigration advice specialist - they'll often be able to help you with the right wording to appease the visa approvers.
Don't leave anything out, don't lie, and don't obscure any details. If you follow the process with the right advice, it prevents any further stuff going wrong. If you're caught lying/ommitting, you're definitely going to have a big black mark on your record after that.
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