UK Visitor visa to visit my girlfriend refused under V4.2 (a) (c) & (e)
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I have read almost all the previous great answers on TSE, especially from Gayot Fow (RIP), regarding my situation i.e UK visa refused under V4.2 (a),(c) & (e). These answers helped me understand some flaws in my original application & I am almost ready with my second application (with about 6 pages of explainer cover letter & additional financial proofs). Questions below are asked particularly in context of my application(s) but may be generalised by others. I would also love your suggestions.
1. My refusal letter (from mid-september) only states -
“Any future UK visa applications you make will be considered on their individual merits, however you are likely to be refused unless the circumstances of your application change“
I saw other letters of refusal here mention
‘unless additional evidence is provided’
‘unless your circumstances change significantly’
Question Set 1 -
- What does this really mean in my case?
- Is there a general 'severity estimate’ based on the different 'languages' used above?
- Will they even consider my additional evidence & explanations?
- How bad is my refusal vis-à-vis reapplication relevance? Is it even worth making a re-application?
2. There was an error in calculating the value of my fixed deposits by the ECO. The deposit statement I had provided did not mention any totals and thus ECO computed the amounts from Page 2 in their refusal letter which is only a third of my actual deposits, while they completely ignored Page 1. I read here that 4.2(e) is mostly an icing on top of more severe 4.2 (a) & (c)
Question Set 2 -
- Will apprising them about this oversight in calculation (which I must bring up) improve my chances even slightly?
- What is the best way to communicate this in my new application?
3. Seems they mainly refused me on 4.2 (a) & (c), I assume it was because of my profile - a 30+yo single Indian male, freelance consultant, possible to work & earn remotely in the UK, asking for 4 months to visit his long-term girlfriend. I can see how I fit the refusal profile from UKVI ’s point of view.
I’ve now reduced my visit duration to 2 months (already lost 2 months due to refusal) in my new application, and attaching confirmed return tickets (which I also did last time) but I guess it won’t make a difference. We’ve literally been apart 13 months and I honestly wish to spend 60 days with her. Historically we’ve only managed to have 3 week long vacations together, but want to spend more time than that when it is finally possible. Is it too much to humanly ask?
Question Set 3 -
What are my other options to show ties to the country? I had already attached property details (owned jointly with my mother) to show my ties to land & family, I can explain a bit more but I can’t think of any other positive evidence to show. What do I do?
I have a small bank loan on my apartment, which I didn't mention explicitly, but my expenses reported during application and bank statement show these monthly instalment debits. Do I disclose this in my new application in case it adds value to my ties or acts positively?
How do I prove I am a genuine visitor if I gave them pretty much all the evidence I have already. I can give evidence of my additional income, income being genuinely derived from my profession (tax statements from the government) and the deposits resulting from the income, but that only answers the V4.2(e); points 4.2 (a) & (c) still remain.
I’m just stressed that in my opinion I can give them all genuine reasons (and some new financial evidence) but I’m afraid I’ll fall short to show my intent of being a genuine visitor. Any pointers to improve my application outcome will be super-welcome.
Thanks in advance.
EDIT (for gratitude): Thank you everyone for your help with the answers & comments, specifically @Traveller & @DJClayworth. It has given me a lot of information & other person's perspective to improve my next application. For me, both answers are equally great & sensible, however in order to mark one as 'accepted' I'll just go by the upvotes. Cheers!
Best Answer
Question 1
(1) This really boils down to “you’ll be refused again unless you address the refusal reasons credibly.” UKVI will consider additional evidence, but IMHO a 6 page explainer letter is far too long. Put the key points you want to cover in the ‘additional comments’ section at the end of the application and anything else essential and relevant in the cover letter. Imagine you are the ECO making the decision: would you carefully wade through 6 pages of minutiae and long-winded explanations as well as the application & supporting documents?
(2) If UKVI made a material error, you can draw their attention to it in your covering letter. Consider though, whether the deposit balance information you provided was crystal clear. If it isn’t easy to understand at a glance, find a way to improve it eg get statements that clearly show the totals, or can you highlight the relevant figures to tie up with those stated in your application?
(Q3) Convincing them that you’ll leave given your profile might be hard. What ties to home did you demonstrate in your previous, successful, applications? Do you have any work commitments after the planned visit or dependents in your home country that would require your physical presence there? Have you considered having your girlfriend visit you this time rather than you visiting her? It seems UKVI weren’t satisfied as to the source of your bank deposits. Does all your financial information reconcile? For example, payment amount X from invoice A shows up as X in your bank account on a credible date and with the payer’s reference?
UKVI picked quite a lot of holes in your application. IMHO it would be worth giving serious consideration to getting a ‘doc check’ before re-applying, as recommended in the canonical answer on this type of refusal UK visa refusal on V 4.2 a + c (and sometimes 'e')
Edit: a note on remote working The Visit Guidance published by the Home Office says:
“Visitors are permitted to undertake activities relating to their employment overseas remotely whilst they are in the UK, such as responding to emails or answering phone calls. However, you should check that the applicant’s main purpose of coming to the UK is to undertake a permitted activity, rather than specifically to work remotely from the UK. Where the applicant indicates that they intend to spend a large proportion of their time in the UK and will be doing some remote working, you should ensure that they are genuinely employed overseas and are not seeking to work in the UK.”
Convincing UKVI that you are ‘genuinely employed overseas’ looks hard to do for a self-employed individual who can work remotely for months at a time.
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