Baggage restrictions on the AVE train (Spain)?
I'm travelling from Barcelona to Madrid with the express train AVE. As I'll be carrying a suitcase I'm trying to find out what restrictions apply. So far I've only found info about size and weight on the official site but nothing about liquids, metallic or sharp objects, etc, such as when you travel by plane.
Does anyone know if any of the plane restrictions apply to trains too? I've been told there's a security control prior to boarding.
Best Answer
Normally, all luggage on AVE trains (and many other Spanish trains) is scanned. This is nothing new and is not related to recent terrorist incidents in France or Belgium.
When I travelled, I was not aware ofany specific restrictions to carrying liquids or metallic and sharp objects (except for weapons). I've travelled by AVE several times in Spain, and I always have my water bottle/bottles. Last time we also brought some kitchen knives in our suitcase. We encountered no problems, but I don't know if that is due to the rules or due to enforcement.
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Can you take luggage on AVE train?
Luggage on the AVEAll ticketed passengers may carry up to three pieces of luggage. The largest piece of luggage may not exceed 85 x 55 x 35 cm (height-width-depth).Can you bring luggage on a train in Spain?
You can carry up to 3 pieces of hand luggage onto the train, provided that the sum of the three does not exceed 25 kg or 290 cm. The maximum dimensions allowed are 85x55x35 cm.Is there a baggage limit on trains?
There is no official size or weight restrictions, however luggage must not be so big or heavy that it cannot be handled by a single person. Luggage should be stored in overhead luggage racks, under the seats or in one of the luggage compartments located near the doors or in the middle of the carriage.How many bags can you bring on Renfe?
\u200b\u200b\u200b\u200b\u200b\u200b\u200b\u200b\u200b\u200bLuggage\u200b\u200b We accept hand bags, suitcases, travel bags and backpacks, provided that there are no more than 3 baggage items and each piece of luggage does not exceed 85 cm x 55 cm x 35 cm. The total weight of the 3 baggage items must not exceed 25 kg and the length 290 cm.Taking the Train in Spain for Beginners - RENFE
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Answer 2
I sent an email to the train operator (Adif) asking about baggage restrictions in the AVE and their answer was:
Desde la Dirección de Seguridad, le informamos que no se puede transportar en Alta Velocidad objetos punzantes, cortantes y/o contundentes. Las tijeras es un material considerado prohibido. No esta permitido esprays. En cuanto a liquidos no esta estblecida ninguna norma.
Translation to English (corrections welcome):
"From the Security Directorate we inform you that you can not carry pointed, sharp and/or blunt objects on High Speed [trains]. Scissors are considered prohibited. Sprays aren't allowed either. As for liquids, no restrictions apply."
So that was the official answer which doesn't mention anything on @PeterTaylor answer and it also contradicts @gerrit about knives being allowed.
So my final thoughts are that the General Conditions of Travel always apply (no weapons unless you have explicit permission, no explosive or inflammable materials, no baggage which might injure, disturb, or stain other travellers or railway property) and to them you have to add "no sprays, no pointed, sharp and/or blunt objects". As for liquids, as long as they don't enter in conflict with the previous rules, no restrictions seem to apply.
Hope it helps.
Answer 3
Before boarding an AVE train you have to pass your luggage through an X-ray scanner, so you should leave enough time for this. But RENFE hasn't bought into the security theatre of liquid bans etc. There are some restrictions which you didn't find in the "General Conditions of Travel":
- Prohibiciones
Los viajeros no podrán:
...
D/ Llevar consigo materias susceptibles de explosión o inflamación y bultos que por su tamano, volumen, contenido u olor puedan danar, molestar o manchar a los demás viajeros o al material ferroviario....
- Viaje con Armas
12.1. Se admitirán viajeros que porten armas en los trenes, únicamente cuando cumplan los siguientes requisitos:
A/ Que se trate en todo caso de armas reglamentadas, según su definición legal.
B/ Que vayan desmontadas o dentro de sus cajas o fundas.
C/ Que vayan acompanadas de las correspondientes guías, licencias y demás documentación exigida legalmente.12.2. Cuando se trate de personal de las Fuerzas Armadas, Fuerzas y Cuerpos de Seguridad, del Servicio de Vigilancia Aduanera o de trabajadores de empresas de seguridad que realicen funciones de custodia o vigilancia, bastará la exhibición de su guía de pertenencia y su Tarjeta de Identidad Militar o, en su caso, carné profesional.
12.3. Los viajeros portadores de armas deberán en todo momento actuar con la diligencia y precaución necesarias y comportarse de forma que no puedan causar peligro, alarma, danos o molestias a los demás viajeros o sus bienes.
On the assumption that very few readers of this answer will be both legally able to carry arms on a Spanish train and incapable of translating that themselves, I'll limit my translation to the excerpt from section 8:
- Prohibitions
Travellers may not:
...
D/ Carry with them explosive or inflammable materials or baggage which, by reason of its size, volume, content, or smell, might injure, disturb, or stain other travellers or railway property.
Personally speaking, I carried a 750ml water bottle and a razor through the AVE X-ray checks just last week without any problem.
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