London To Birmingham Off Peak Permitted Routes
I have a question about tickets and permitted routes. I need to travel from London to Birmingham on 8th of February for work. After, I want to visit my friends in Leamington Spa and get back to London on 10th. The tickets I will buy will be refunded by my company, so it's important that those two towns are the endpoints. My idea was to buy two separate tickets, since it's faster to get to Birmingham New Street on 8th if I travel from Euston on Virgin trains, and get the off peak one for 10th from Birmingham Moor Street so that I could pop on the train from Leamington. However, there are railworks on 10th and they prevent me from buying separate return tickets.
There are two other options:
- Get an open return ticket from London Euston to Birmingham New Street (this route does not go through Leamington)
- get an open return from London Marylebone to Birmingham Moor Street.
My questions:
If I get first one, will I be able to hop on the train in Leamington on the 10th, given that there are no direct trains from Birmingham to London on that day, but travel "is allowed via any permitted route"?
If I buy the second option, will I be able to use faster Virgin train from Euston to Birmingham New Street on the outward journey, given that once again any route is permitted and it says I am allowed to arrive at different station?
P.S. I will get a ticket from Birmingham to Leamington separately from those, the idea is to buy such tickets that can be refunded, without that there wouldn't be such complications.
Best Answer
An Off-Peak return ticket will be issued between LONDON TERMINALS and BIRMINGHAM STNS. If you get it for "Any Permitted" route, that means any of these routes:
- Euston to New Street (either via Northampton or bypassing it, optionally via Nuneaton if you're feeling adventurous).
- Marylebone to Snow Hill or New Street via Leamington Spa (and then direct or via Coventry).
- Paddington to Snow Hill or New Street via Reading and Leamington Spa (and then as above or even via Nuneaton).
You don't need to pick the same route in each direction, and you can break journey along the way on the return part -- even overnight or spanning several nights -- so you don't need a separate ticket from Birmingham to Leamington.
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- Euston to New Street (either via Northampton or bypassing it, optionally via Nuneaton if you're feeling adventurous).
- Marylebone to Snow Hill or New Street via Leamington Spa (and then direct or via Coventry).
What are off-peak train times Birmingham?
A general rule of thumb is that Off-Peak will begin at 09:30 Mondays to Fridays in cities and large towns, and 09:00 across the rest of the network. Weekends and Bank Holidays are Off-Peak all day.What time can I leave London on off-peak?
Generally speaking, the Off-Peak window begins after 09:30 and outside of evening commuter hours - 15:30-18:15 - for travel in and out of big cities. Super Off-Peak tickets become available after 10:00. Off-Peak tickets for trains departing London Waterloo are available after 09:00.When can I travel with an Off-Peak Return?
Off-Peak Return tickets are valid for return travel within one calendar month from the start date shown on the ticket and until 04:29 after last day of validity. The National Rail Journey Planner will automatically work out which tickets are valid for your journey.Can I use an off-peak day return at any time?
Off-Peak Day Return tickets are valid for travel on the date shown on the ticket and until 04:29 the following day. All travel must be completed by this time. Off-Peak Day Return tickets are valid for travel on the date shown on the ticket and until 04:29 the following day. All travel must be completed by this time.London to Birmingham treval with me hope your enjoy🤩🤩
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