Implications of giving mobile number to train operating company (UK), especially re Advance ticket booking

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I often travel by intercity train in the UK on Advance tickets, which I usually book through the TOC's own website. The TOC has my electronic-mail address, but I never give it my mobile number.

I want to know whether the TOC having my mobile number (as opposed to just my electronic-mail address), would effect the outcome of the following scenario:

  • I had booked an Advance ticket;
  • the booked train were retimed at short notice;
  • as a direct result of the retiming, I did not get the booked train; and
    • either I ask the ticket office or train guard to allow me to travel on the next train instead
    • or I board the next train without getting explicit permission (because I believe I am entitled to do so)
    • or I board the next train without getting explicit permission (because the ticket office is closed or has a very long queue, and the next train is about to depart).

My qualm with giving a mobile number is that, if I arrive at the departure station and discover that my booked train had departed earlier than originally scheduled, the ticket office or train guard would refuse to allow me to travel on another train because "We sent an SMS to your registered mobile number telling you that the train had been retimed".

As I understand it, NRCOT entitles me to a full refund if a train is retimed. But it is unclear what happens if I still want to travel, but on a different train (e.g.: hourly services retimed to be 20 minutes earlier, but I prefer to get the departure 40 minutes later than the original time instead). In practice, I realise ticket restrictions are often lifted, but I want to know whether I can rely on this in principle, and whether the TOC's capacity to notify me of a train retiming makes any difference. My mobile telephone is often switched off, especially when I am travelling for leisure, and I do not want the obligation to check for notifications (on the other hand, I would like the opportunity to receive notifications if they are without prejudice to any rights I would have had absent said notifications).



Best Answer

The general rule is that if you're sold a ticket on that itinerary and the itinerary no longer becomes possible, either due to a last-minute delay or cancellation, or something planned further in advance (but after you bought your ticket), you are allowed to travel on the next available train by the same operator, or to get a full refund. This applies whether or not you heard of this issue in advance.

National Rail Conditions of Travel

30.1. If the train you intended to use is cancelled, delayed, or your reservation will not be honoured, and you decide not to travel, you may return the unused Ticket to the original retailer or Train Company from whom it was purchased, where you will be given a full refund with no administration fee being charged.

This Condition applies to all Tickets, including Tickets (such as advance Tickets) that are otherwise non-refundable, and also applies if you have begun your journey but are unable to complete it due to delay or cancellations and return to your point of origin.

This isn't for the precise scenario you listed but it's been my experience that this is generally what happens:

9.4. Where you are using a Ticket valid on a specific train service or train services (such as an ‘advance’ Ticket) and you miss a service because a previous connecting train service was delayed, you will be able to travel on the next train service provided by the Train Company with whom you were booked without penalty.

Plus there's this from the Advance Ticket Terms and Conditions:

If the train you purchased a ticket for is cancelled or is delayed and you still decide to travel, special arrangements will be made to accommodate you on another train (although a seat cannot be guaranteed).

In addition to all of this, there's the practical consideration that there's simply no way for the person at the station or on the train to know that you had a phone number associated with your booking. This won't be displayed anywhere on the ticket, and it's also not in the centralised reservation system. So even if you were expected to check your phone for alterations (which you're not), there's no practical way of them telling that you could have done so.




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How far in advance can I book UK train tickets?

You can usually book train tickets in the UK up to 12 weeks in advance, these are called Advance train tickets and are generally cheaper than booking nearer to the departure date.

How many weeks in advance can I book train tickets?

Typically, train companies release their Advance tickets 12 weeks before the departure date, although some go on sale as far as 24 weeks in advance! Only a limited number of tickets will be available, so be quick to secure yours as the fare can rise as the date of travel gets nearer.

Can I use my train ticket from another station?

Tickets that have been purchased with an \u201cany available route\u201d option can be used with any train company that operates between the stations you wish to travel. Any time tickets are the most flexible and can be used on any train on the chosen day of departure for the journey you have booked.

What is an advance train ticket?

Advance fares are single (one-way) tickets offering great value for money on many longer distance journeys. You must book in advance* of travel and fares are sold in limited numbers and so subject to availability. In general, the further ahead you book, the cheaper the Advance fare will be.



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